i haven't yet seen eagle vs. shark, however am a big fan of Taika's work, and a friend of his...
now i'm not going to go on a rant how you can't make these comments because i like Taika, i'm just going to say that i know where you're coming from.
firstly, i attend a seminar of Taika's at the start of the year, and when asked about his film in comparison to ND, he stated that he hadn't even heard of it when he was writing EVS... and then he cringed at the fact his film was already being compared before it was even released.
nextly, new zealand humour is quite very different from american humour.
secondly, EVS, like ND is absurdist cinema.
the characters aren't supposed to feel anything. they are supposed to be empty characters that sometimes have exaggerated movements and sudden mood and status changes.
the idea of absurdism is to make the audience frustrated, and to portray to them the absurdist idea that life is meaninless.
in samuel beckett's Waiting for Godot (a very famous absurdist theatre piece) the two main characters wait on the side of the road for three audience-viewed hours waiting for a man named Godot. he never comes, and nothing happens.
though beckett was an extremely depressed man and wrote plays like this to express his absurdist ideas, Taika is not (to my knowledge) 'extremely depressed.'
Taika, i imagine has made EVS for a light hearted laugh as well as a bit of drama. if you've seen some of his 48hour films you will understand how he subverts cinema conventions, and if you watch his two shorts (two cars one night, and tama tu) you will see how he can blend both comedy and drama together so finely...
i have not seen it...
i so wish to see it because i'm sure i'd love it...
anyhow you're allowed your opinions and i respect them (thank you very much elmo ), but i'm just slightly jealous and disappointed that you got the opportunity to see it and walked out half way through. i would have at least stayed the full running time to get the overall impression of the film.
coming to my last point... i'm sick of people who break things down and scrutinize each bit... and that is why i dropped media studies
yay for school!
Thank you. Really. Thanks
I enjoyed reading your thoughts and views on this subject. And to have gained a little more insight. This is such a difficult reply to write, I'm struggling to write what is in my mind, without sounding clichÃ©d. Gah
I'm glad someone came along and has written with a NZer pov. I did deliberate about posting the EvS snippet on the news page, and was a little concerned that because it was a negative pov, it would annoy/upset/anger fans of the guys (and Taika) but I am as I said, not one to pretend that negative stuff never gets said. I did want to see if there was more out to be heard about this film though. There is more than a negative out there I am sure. I'm happy to read positives believe me. I've followed Taika's career for a number of years now and have seen him perform live also. He's a good guy. I want and hope this film is something I like. But if it isn't hey, thats ok. Its not going to be to everyones liking. And it does not mean I am going to dislike all his future work. I'll wait with interest for the next thing he does for sure. I'm pretty simple in that way.
I do think that yes, there is marked difference in humour, not just between the US and NZ, obviously other nations also. Here in the UK, much of our humour flies over the heads of many elsewhere. My partner is Australian and its unbelieveable how varied the humour can be between us. Saying that, I find much to like in Australian comedy and its cinema. And I have been following various NZ actors/performers/film makers for a fair while now. My partner lived in NZ for a while and his interest and love of your country continues to spark mine.
To cover what you have said, I do feel for Taika, with regards to the film being compared before its even been released. That it was being compared back then, such a strange thing to do to film. Obviously marketing and so on will play its part, and pushing a film at a certain audience is not unusual. I think the media interest and the internet have well and truly played their part in chaging the face of how films are made and marketed in the modern day.
I'm sure as the time for release draws closer much more will be written about this film. Reviewers, fans, studio will all have their say. Some people will go see this film regardless of what gets said, simply because they are fans (be it of Jemaine, Taika, whoever) and may or may not be disappointed. Others will go to see it based on reviews. A whole host of reasons. Ultimately each person will make up their own mind if they liked it or not and the reasons why. Napoloean Dynamite might have nothing to do with it
We'll all be yelling over the fence to each other or sat on it trying not to fall off and squish people afterwards
I think the main thing is that Taika made/makes the film he wants. If he is happy with the end result then good on him as a director and writer. He has done more than many in the world of film making. I respect that. To get to where he is today he has not done so without talent or originality. We know that. Just others do not, as we read, see all his work as you or even I may do.
Ummm, crap. I'm talking out my backside here. I need to go stick my head in a bucket and run at a wall or something. Knock some talent with expression into my feeble mind.